I had a terrible ( racing ) month . In last race i spoon out on a cube by may fault . And after i got my wing back i wanted to lap back and ruined Kobayashi10 race . Im soo soory .

IndyCar DW12 Championship
#121
Posted 01 June 2014 - 06:45 PM
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#122
Posted 01 June 2014 - 07:33 PM
No problem MAC. I know you are generally a clean driver, and I just have to blame the imbalance in general to the qualifying, where some fast people got caught in traffic - and the sheer tightness of the track which makes passing hard, but because it is a race of 20 minutes/16 laps, makes the rush even more urgent to get in front!
I was trying to drive back to pits for repairs, but on this track there is NO SPACE to do this safely as the apexes vary a lot on that back area. If it is so hard to pass in the first place, figure how hard is it to be safe when driving at half the speed with no front wing... Drive on the grass? I don't know, it's really not wide enough like silverstone or indy.
Really dissapointing.
I had brought up the issue about qualifying being too crowded. On a track of 75 seconds a lap, divided among 14 people, that is evenly spaced 5 second gaps. In reality that is not the case, and someone 1+ second slower in front can already cause problems for people behind...
Cossaco was saying that this is the strategy, to exit pits where the spot is good, fine, but looking at the map it was crowded all over.
Even 6 people in the hot lap was causing traffic issues after running 2 or 3 laps...
I looked up the Indycar road course qualifying, and similar to f1, they run ROUNDS of qualifying, to make a better chance to set a correct time. Not only that, the field isn't so spread apart in time like we had +-1 seconds or more!
Just think about it, if qualification was private, and people can set their best times without the problem of traffic (which is HALF LUCK- as you cannot tell who is in front or behind you until its too late!!!) then the starting grid would get bunched up less.
Anyway, I know there are people who would lambast the idea of private qualifying etc... but I'm sure there are others that find this a good idea to TRY OUT, and see how it works. How else can things improve on fairness/etc if we don't experiment on this BETA game?
#123
Posted 01 June 2014 - 07:52 PM
No problem MAC. I know you are generally a clean driver, and I just have to blame the imbalance in general to the qualifying, where some fast people got caught in traffic - and the sheer tightness of the track which makes passing hard, but because it is a race of 20 minutes/16 laps, makes the rush even more urgent to get in front!
Thanks. It happens to everybody at some point. I just hate it if I cause an issue because it effects people other than myself. That's why I normally make a dive for the grass in a situation like this. It was really close to not being a bump from me today and I was actually surprised that it happened.
I was already kicking myself for throwing out my best qualifying of the series, particularly after I had practiced the start/first lap on cold tires and full tanks all morning. Bumping into you just made even worse. After I stopped I concentrated on trying to set decent and consistent times and didn't have any more mistakes. I was hoping to avoid being lapped, but I went ahead and pulled over to the side and stopped to let LionHeart by with one lap to go. I eventually ended up 6th as other people retired/spun/picked up penalties as the race went on.
I had podium pace today and I threw it out the window along with your, and Clark10's, races as well. Sorry again for the heartache.
On the qualifying thing, I don't mind the group qualifying. Being able to pick a gap to run in is a good skill to have. More than one round would be good, but it's already a pretty compressed schedule as it is. I do think that we need to have a time limited session to set the grid with though as otherwise someone can just throw the car at the track for 3 days and hope a stupid-fast, non-repeatable lap sticks. I was 6th in the hot lap and then improved my time to be 3rd on the grid today. I even kept that position for 4 corners!
Maybe there is a way to have an event the morning of the race that lets you run solo, but only lets you enter once. That way we could get the grid set before the race comes up. Then we could have 10 min of warmup before the race instead of the current 10 min qualifying session.
#124
Posted 01 June 2014 - 08:55 PM
The thing about that argument against qualifying is that 10 minutes is not really a crazy time anyway to get a "perfect" time, and those that practiced for it, should be consistent enough to be able to do that time. Private qualifying seems like a good compromise, so you have only 10 mins to run a good lap. In Sonoma that is only 6 timed laps (removing the first un timed lap). Problem was at A51, with 2.5 min laps... its only 3 timed laps (first lap untimed)! So, to have to find a gap, and all that in those limited laps, is pretty insane. It only seems to reward those that fly out first, get a quick fast lap, and then they don't have to worry. It's also disorganized in how people exit to do the qualifications, IRL, the officials determine this?!
The whole gap thing is not a good idea, because if everyone did it, there would be no gaps to find. It's like at work, we don't have enough trucks. So they say, come in early and grab a truck key. But that doesn't fix the initial problem, there are not enough trucks (not enough space). So, really at the end, still someone doesn't have a truck.
But this IS NOT real life, because they have rounds. If you want to be hardcore and make it super real, put in rounds and all that. In fact, because it is such a SHORT race compared to the real indy races, qualifying is very important- if not to just balance the starting grid out.
On the qualifying thing, I don't mind the group qualifying. Being able to pick a gap to run in is a good skill to have. More than one round would be good, but it's already a pretty compressed schedule as it is. I do think that we need to have a time limited session to set the grid with though as otherwise someone can just throw the car at the track for 3 days and hope a stupid-fast, non-repeatable lap sticks. I was 6th in the hot lap and then improved my time to be 3rd on the grid today. I even kept that position for 4 corners!
#125
Posted 01 June 2014 - 10:45 PM
So, I got a few buddies on iracing, and being however real they claim it to be, I asked how do they run qualifying.
Check this out, its PRIVATE qualifying on iracing Road courses, example 20 mins at LRP. Who would have thought?
#126
Posted 01 June 2014 - 11:44 PM



#127
Posted 02 June 2014 - 12:14 AM
#128
Posted 02 June 2014 - 12:43 AM
championships.html?event=1405SQ59
(Edit: Some explanation deleted. I re-ordered the ties according to criteria Coss has used in the past.)
Again, Coss may break these ties in different ways, so the official results may be quite different.
Let me know if you see any errors.
#129
Posted 02 June 2014 - 01:28 AM
thanks for the event. didn't really know what I was doing, yet it was great fun.
#130
Posted 02 June 2014 - 02:54 AM
SQ : 922 / Miles raced : 83 682 / Car owned : 118 / Favorite : Maserati Tipo Birdcage
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#131
Posted 02 June 2014 - 05:56 AM
Good race, was on good pace but was pretty careful in the race as i had seen someone burn in the B race,
shifting later and more smooth required change in style a bit so i could not push but didnt need to.
Few times my shifter still bugged and shifted down to 1st very rapidly, i was very lucky not to explode but overall i made no mistakes, lets see how the scores are calculated for champ.
#132
Posted 02 June 2014 - 06:43 AM
The final results for the Indycar championship are already available in simracer.tk, here are the direct links:
SQ 900-1100
Standings: http://www.simracer....1100/standings/
Post race results: http://www.simracer....900-1100/race4/
SQ 500-900
Standings: http://www.simracer....-900/standings/
Post race results: http://www.simracer..../500-900/race4/
(send me a PM if you can not open, and I will send the image directly)
Note: I watch and review the entire races to collect the data, but I am not a steward, I can not judge and punish drivers with the loss of positions / points, I include only those that have been declared during the races and seen by me, so it is unofficial.
#133
Posted 02 June 2014 - 09:13 AM
excellent as always! This should be a standard for all future events
#134
Posted 02 June 2014 - 10:12 AM
Yeeehaaawww!! I won!!
as a fulltime working man and fulltime Family Father i didnt expect this outcome!! Its hard to battle against some of these guys here, but a steady collection of points and a thrilling win at Indy made it possible!! Grats to Launger for his Start/Finish win at Sonoma!!
On a side note - people please practice your Starting procedures, its quite shocking that in the Top Class of SRW we have to have 2-3 restarts everytime!! embarissing at times!! We owe SRW that people can see on livestream that this is serious racing, but we make a joke out of it when crashing out like noobs!! and this is not a matter of a "paper like front wing"
Looking forward to the next Championship with all of you

#135
Posted 02 June 2014 - 01:30 PM
Grats Jmoo!!
A very well deserved win m8
#136
Posted 02 June 2014 - 02:28 PM
cant wait till you join us again

#137
Posted 02 June 2014 - 11:01 PM
boings ribeiro i was trying to work that out with your existing table last night...
i saw the 3 way tie...
shame no written rules about the tie splitting...
i scanned some in the past and it seemed splitting them various ways
if by including dropped points then me but more typically i think maybe germany20007 should be 4th me 5th (by highest result)... well maybe one day we find out
boings moo
and i agree too many hotlappers that then go crazy on lap 1
7th start was 'perfect' (well if u dont count ag06 ramming shaun spinning him and pushing me off track) and that start stood
make next champ one start and review the replay and people causing wrecks get large points penalties (even if to minus numbers) then moving to bans from events they qualify to
bcos these restarts leads to some rammers being rewarded for aggression and having car restored for new start then an innocent angel (cough) like me
losing out randomly
seems extremely unjust
simraceway=simdontpay
#138
Posted 03 June 2014 - 02:12 AM
if by including dropped points then me but more typically i think maybe germany20007 should be 4th me 5th (by highest result)... well maybe one day we find out
The first rule in this case is the number of races of each, and it also applies the discarded race, I know, both have 4, but if the dropped race was considered here, so it seems fair to consider the total number of points before the best position achieved, and why? ... rewards the player who did his best to gain a better position every time since hotlap until the race, it discourages some players to abandon the race in some cases (as is very common), thinking that that result will not count for anything.
But it is only one point of view. One day we will have a table of rules that surely will help much my life
#139
Posted 03 June 2014 - 03:21 AM
The first rule in this case is the number of races of each, and it also applies the discarded race, I know, both have 4, but if the dropped race was considered here, so it seems fair to consider the total number of points before the best position achieved, and why? ... rewards the player who did his best to gain a better position every time since hotlap until the race, it discourages some players to abandon the race in some cases (as is very common), thinking that that result will not count for anything.
But it is only one point of view. One day we will have a table of rules that surely will help much my life
#140
Posted 03 June 2014 - 04:39 AM
Has Coss been breaking ties by considering the number of races and the total number of points (including the discarded score), or is this just your opinion on what the primary tie-breaker should be? If Coss is considering the fourth race as the primary tie-breaker, I don't think that's right, because everyone believes only the three best races count. As long as the tied racers have entered at least three races, the fourth race should be the third tie-breaker. I think the first two tie-breakers should be the best finish, and the head-to-head results.If someone enters fewer than three races, then I agree he should lose a tie-breaker with someone who has entered at least three races.
Yes, the number of races that each of the drivers participated is the first key factor, even if 3 x 4, and this rule has been used by Cossacco here: http://community.sim...e-14#entry12595 (full standings: http://www.simracer.tk/pdc/standings/)
Launger vs. Norbi211 solved basing on the number of races that each of the drivers participated in. Launger 4 races, Norbi211 3 races.
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